Patrick Cronin appears on the Defense and Aerospace Podcast to discuss China’s attitude toward the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (14:30), Havana syndrome (30:00), Washington-Beijing relations after last week’s Joe Biden–Xi Jinping phone call and Secretary Janet Yellen’s visit China (34:30), Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida’s upcoming visit, and the Taiwan earthquake (38:30).

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A US flag flies off the stern of a tour boat at the Port of Los Angele in California on July 31, 2025. (Getty Images)