In a podcast interview on Sea Control 272, Bryan Clark and Bryan McGrath discuss their latest idea for changing the Navy’s force generation model, getting carrier air wings to operate as a system, required shoreside infrastructure, and more.
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Border patrol officers pull barbed wires as immigrants wait at the United States border on March 20, 2024, in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico. (Christian Torres/Anadolu via Getty Images)